Southampton Supermarket Law Study Skewered

Residents challenge credibility of report that says legislation allowing a grocery store to open in the Southampton Village highway business district will have no adverse effects.

The Southampton Village Board will continue to mull legislation that would enable a new grocery store to open in the village, after a steady stream of members of the public took to the boardroom lectern Thursday to decry the plan and the study that states it will not have an adverse impact on the village.

The report commissioned by the village and prepared by consulting firm Nelson, Pope & Voorhis looked at the impacts a new 20,000-square-foot supermarket could have on the village. It concludes, “The proposed action and its potential impact will be either insignificant or mitigated, and all such impacts will be localized such that no regional impacts are expected.”

The study determines that, on a weekend, the peak traffic volume will reach 111 vehicles in and 106 vehicles out in a one-hour period.

It goes on to recommend that the Village Board votes to determine that further study under New York’s State Environmental Quality Review Act is not necessary.

But that determination does not sit well with a number of residents.

“I’ve lived in this village 74 years and I have never seen such a dumb proposal in my life,” Lewis Street resident said Diane Deutschmann, citing existing traffic in the highway business district.

While the law would apply to several properties, only one — a former car dealership at the corner of Flying Point Road and Hampton owned by the Glennon family — is already being eyed by a supermarket chain, namely, The Fresh Market.

Peter Conrad, representing his condo community adjacent to the Glennon site, told the board, “The traffic at that intersection is abominable, for many months of the year, not just the summer.”


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Jay Diesing, the president of the village civic group Southampton Association, said that the study has many omissions that should be addressed. He presented the board with a report prepared by Lisa Liquori, of Fine Art & Sciences in East Hampton that the association sought in response to the Nelson, Pope & Voorhis study.

Liquori found that the study fails to identify “major traffic impacts that could result from the zone change,” that it is contrary to the village’s comprehensive plan, and that it improperly segments the assessment of the zoning legislation from the impact of the supermarket proposed at the Glennon site.

Mayor Mark Epley repeated during Thursday's Village Board meeting what he has been saying for months: That the law would apply to multiple parcels, not just the Glennon site.

“It’s a modification in the zoning code in the highway business district that allows a property owner ... to request a special exception,” Epley explained to concerned residents.

Nelson, Pope & Voorhis found that seven parcels would be eligible under the law.  It would have been eight, but Suffolk County recently turned one parcel into a sump for stormwater runoff.

Epley said there are no foregone conclusions. “They still have to go through the Architectural Review Board, Planning Board, Suffolk County Department of Health …

“It’s not a rubber stamp. It’s an opportunity for a property owner to come in here and maybe do something different.”

Ultimately, Epley said the board will take more time to review residents' feedback before voting on the legislation, and no action was taken.

Trustee Rich Yastrzemski said that the proposed zoning change does appear to serve only one property owner and, considering the opposition to the legislation, he will vote against it.

Enuf II September 18, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Looking forward to the new Fresh Market, will be a nice addition. Can't stop progress, and this market will be up and running by memorial day.
Jaguar-Guy September 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM
The ridiculous amount of volume that already exists at this location is absurd. To add to it, the amounts they are quoting (and we know the quotes are on the lower side certainly), will ONLY cause injury, MORE delays and deaths. Let the loss of life be on the collective conscience of the Board.
susan September 18, 2012 at 12:57 PM
the traffic data submitted by Nelson, Pope, Voorhis was OLD - from 2008. Other data was from 2009. These were recession years and don't accurately reflect current numbers. Other statements are not backed with any real . dataThe village cannot base its conclusions on this flawed pile of paper. It is inconceivable that the village would approve this supermarket for this location.
Postman Sharp September 18, 2012 at 01:07 PM
Instead of jamming all the traffic into a single shopping center in the middle of the village, it will now be divided between the two...who can't figure that out??? That means LESS congestion on Jaeger Lane and, likely, similar traffic on Hampton Road or slightly more. Ask Jay Diesing if he does the shopping in his house. Not likely. And his home will not be affected by the change. Village residents FAR AND WIDE have asked...no, they've BEGGED...the board to try to bring a market into the village. Even Citarella's was being personally escorted around town to look at all available spaces. Now, because Diane Deutschman, whose home is nowhere near this intersection, says "no" that this carries weight with the rest of village residents??? I don't think so. We want our market because we NEED our market. Period.
Hope and Change September 18, 2012 at 01:10 PM
The post office on main street is a complete eyesore. what an embarassment! for folks entering to the town from 39, i looks like Southampton is in total decay. How does the town allow such a disgraceful property to exist. reflects poorly on the town regardless of USPS responsibility. Fine them or something. just horrible welcome sign. disgusting!
Hope and Change September 18, 2012 at 01:12 PM
Im just saying. WOW its terrible.
free wheeling September 18, 2012 at 02:53 PM
If you think the Post Office is an eyesore, imagine what a gigantic 40,000 sq. ft King Kullen on Collision Road 39 will be, along with yes ANOTHER drive in bank and some retail thrown in for good measure. Has anyone questioned what a King Kullen monopoly will mean for thir wallet? The prices are sky high now and there is ample competition. Why anyone would want to exhaust themselves walking across a couple of football fields of space to get a carton of milk is beyond reason.
Hazel Wilkonson the First September 18, 2012 at 09:49 PM
Enuff, if your idea of progress is a new grocery store then you have set your sights pretty low.
Ralebird September 18, 2012 at 11:51 PM
Really, Susan? I hadn't noticed the boom had come.
Ralebird September 18, 2012 at 11:58 PM
A "couple of football fields of space" would be three times the size of the proposed store...but don't let a fact or two get in the way of a good rant. By the way, where do you find ample competition in the east end grocery business; I've looked, it's not there.
Animal Lover September 19, 2012 at 02:34 AM
NO, NO, NO to this ridiculous market! We DONT want it!
free wheeling September 19, 2012 at 04:33 PM
To: the near-sighted "GJ": Ample competition is: Schmidt's, Shop & Shop, Citerella, Stop & Shop, t(Best Yet where everybody secretly shops anyway), two other over-priced, over-sized King Kullen's and the farmer's markets and farm stands. Mega, over-sized, collossal, mammoth = 40,000 sq. ft. of store.
Ralebird September 20, 2012 at 02:48 AM
Most of those stores are a fairly good ride from the location in question and if you find them "ample competition" you're more easily satisfied than I. 40,000 square feet is undersized by current industry standards and is far from the rest of your adjectives.
Diane Sadowski September 22, 2012 at 06:20 PM
I ask the question, is it okay to have a 10,000 sq ft store. Probably ok for HB zoning. Is it then ok to have 4 of these 10,000 sq ft. buildings with spacing between them? So is it the building size that is of concern? Lets see PC Richards has 2 buildings. Can a grocery store have 4? One will be for produce and bakery only, one will be for frozen and refrigerated goods, one for canned and other staple goods, and then one for home goods. They could call it KK1. KK2, KK3 and KK4. Right? All a big to do about nothing really!


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