Indy Chair Explains Bishop to Altschuler Switch

Altschuler camp is excited about the endorsement while Bishop says he has prevailed in the past without needing the Independence Party line.

The 2012 race in New York's First Congressional District is poised to be a repeat of 2010, with Republican Randy Altschuler challenging incumbent Democrat Tim Bishop, but there will be one big difference that could prove to be the deciding factor.

This year, the Independence Party has after backing Bishop in 2010, when Bishop, of Southampton, fended off Altschuler, of St. James, by just 593 votes.

Frank MacKay, the county and state chairman of the Independence Party, said Wednesday that Altschuler was chosen for his business background. Altschuler is the co-founder of CloudBlue, which provides recycling services for electronic equipment, and he was the CEO and co-founder of OfficeTiger, an outsourcing firm.

“People coming in from the business world into public office is a rare thing," MacKay said. "People don’t like to get involved in politics and government.”

He added, “It's not a slight at Tim Bishop, but he certainly doesn’t have the business credentials that Randy has.” Bishop was the provost of Southampton College prior to being elected to Congress in 2002.

MacKay said he has nothing against Bishop, who he called a friend. “This is a pro-Altschuler endorsement," he said. "It's certainly not anti-Bishop.”

Though the match-up is seemingly identical to two years ago, MacKay said that is not the case: “Randy did not have the Republican nomination last time around."

This time, Altschuler , whereas in 2010 he was in a three-way primary race with Chris Cox and George Demos and the party had not given its blessing to a certain candidate. While Cox has not returned to the fray in 2012, Demos has, and Altschuler must defeat him in a July 26 primary to formally clinch the nomination.

MacKay said when his party was picking a candidate in 2010, it was only he and party members from Southampton that backed Bishop, while all other towns in the congressional district backed Altschuler. “We certainly have a lot of respect for the people in Southampton, but it's not a large part of the congressional district,” he said.

He swayed the committee to endorse Bishop in 2010 because it was not guaranteed that Altschuler would get the GOP nod, he said. “The Republicans simply let it go to a free-for-all.”

When Altschuler and Bishop screened with the Independence Party for this election cycle, the party was confident Altschuler would have the Republican nomination, according to MacKay.

“He has the support of all the local tea parties as well," said Diana Weir, Altschuler's campaign manager. "We think there’s a very unified front."

Altschuler also has the Conservative Party line, and Weir said the Independence endorsement switch will be a major factor, especially considering there were 7,370 votes cast on the "I" line in 2010, a midterm election.

Weir said that while the endorsement bodes well for an Altschuler victory, Suffolk County voters are discriminating and split their ballots regularly. “It's not like they’re lock step,” she said. What will be very telling in the presidential race and down the ballot line will be pocketbook issues, she said, such as gas prices, the housing market and unemployment.

In an interview with Patch last Friday, Bishop acknowledged he would prefer to have the Independence endorsement. “It’s always better to have more lines than fewer lines, don’t get me wrong,” he said.

Bishop is counting on those who supported him in the past to find his name on the Democratic and Working Families lines. He said, “I’m pretty sure people vote for me, they don’t vote for what line I have.”

He pointed out that he knocked off an incumbent in 2002 without the Independence Party line, and he said in 2004, 2006 and 2008, his margin of victory dwarfed the number of votes he received on the "I" line.

Bishop said 2010 was a unique election cycle. “It was an extremely difficult cycle for incumbent Democrats in an off-year, a non-presidential year.”

"In 2008, there were 42,000 more registered Democrats who came out to vote in New York-1 than was the case in 2010," he said. "So if we get the Democrats back out to vote, there’s going to be plenty of Democrats there who are going to be voting for me."

Veronica L. March 31, 2012 at 08:21 PM
I am a registered Indepdndent and I never have and never would vote for Tim Bishop. NEVER!
David D'Agostino March 31, 2012 at 09:01 PM
And yet he still manages to win.
Rebecca Pabon April 01, 2012 at 01:26 PM
He's not winning any more!
Preliator April 02, 2012 at 04:15 PM
Rick Hoyt April 07, 2012 at 06:00 AM
Need To Drain The Cesspool, Evict All Political Lifers From The 2 Party Conspiracy, Replace Them With Libertarians, It's Our Only Solution.We Have Over 7 Million Incarcerated , Mostly For Minor Crimes, Turning Them Into Hardened Criminals.MO Money For The Penal Complex, Starting Endless Illegal Wars, Great For The Military Complex.Food Supply Is Compromised - Processed Foods - All With "Non-Labeled" GMO Foods,Aspartame-Which They Do a Name Change On - Every Week.No Wonder Americans Are In a Fog, Clueless.I am Willing To Give Altschuler a Crack At It, Can't Hurt Anymore.
George Lynch April 07, 2012 at 08:10 AM
We have a complicated society, a complicated economy, a complicated country. Can't change it, that's the way it is, and running it is not a game for amateurs taking "a Crack At It" as Rick suggests. If we "Evict All Political Lifers" as he would have us do, then the only people left in Washington who know anything about how it all works will be the staffers and the lobbyists, because they'll be the only ones with any experience. Do you want that? I don't.
EZ George April 07, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Oh George, you're too easy. All of a sudden its a complicated economy. Get outta the way, its not yours to run. Its ours, those of us that actually do more than decide where daisies get planted. Your boy, and I do mean boy, was elected with no experience doing anything than gathering innter city miscreants to battle against the man. And lose. 3.5 years later and all of a sudden experience matters. Pfft. You are one vote, thank goodness. If you've actually been to capital hill you would know that its the staffers and lobbyists that actually get the work done. Tim is too busy traveling to the upper-east side with his hand out.
EZ George April 07, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Mr. Hoyt, THIS is the attitude that scares the daylights out of the hacks that have made it their life's work to tell you how to live yours. The do as I say not as I do crowd has jumped the shark and yes, you are 1000% accurate, its time to go. The goal shouldn't be the underground parking lot and a life long appointment to the congressional health club - term limits should have been on the docket long ago. If power corrupts and DC is the center of the world power seat then its also ground zero of the world's corruption. So if we simply recognize the sewer of corruption and give the hack reps 2 terms max, then we ship out our civil servants before they can rot further. Amen to you and thank you for scaring the bejeesus out of Hazel, Marybeth, John, George and the rest of em.
George Lynch April 07, 2012 at 12:36 PM
"Your boy, and I do mean boy, . . ." OK, we know where you're coming from, EZ, and that's all we need to know.
Mary Beth April 07, 2012 at 10:29 PM
EZ George, you are clearly an ignorant racist. Today's society has no place for your kind of hatred.
Curious George April 08, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that guy thinks the president is less than a man, I tend to agree. The lecturer in chief has played more golf, had more parties, dresses up on halloween is having trouble quitting smoking, reacts quickly to events without knowing the issues, has made an entire platform out of youthful ideology, thinks he killed bin laden and generally pitches fits when he doesn't get what he want a la obamacare etc. I don't blame you though, EG George was pretty stinging. What the heck else were you going to do, you sort of had to call him a dumb racist.
Preliator April 09, 2012 at 10:52 AM
"You are a racist"...the easiest and laziest charge you can make against some one. It is used so often by those on the left it has become a throwaway line. Get used to it this year, when the loons on the left begin to lose an argument they'll pull this card and you'll be a racist. It is not hard to understand, liberalism is intellectually lazy so pick the lazy attack and walk away; you don't have to justify it, you don't have to explain it, yuo just say it.
Jaguar-Guy April 09, 2012 at 01:04 PM
Yes, too many extremists (on both sides) forging names and committing voter fraud!!!
Mary Beth April 09, 2012 at 03:27 PM
"Your boy, and I do mean boy, . . ." That's not racist? You know what is worse than overt racism, Preliar, excusing and defending overt racism.
Preliator April 09, 2012 at 04:56 PM
No, I reject your pathetic attempts to make race an issue as every serious person should. You know as well as I do the context of the remark is meant to portray Obama as a less than serious person, i.e, a child or child like, a boy. The reek of desperation on your part and that of the Obama-zombies is almost as bad as the reek of corruption that not hangs in the air around the White House. The simple minded might be persuaded by your efforst but then again the simple minded are already going to be voting for President Food Stamp.
Mary Beth April 09, 2012 at 07:46 PM
No, I reject your pathetic attempt to excuse what is clearly meant to be a racist comment ' Your boy, and I do mean boy" You want to know what is lazy, Preliar? Lazy is not having the courage to stand against such hateful nonsense. Lazy is accepting racism and blaming it on "liberalism". Lazy is someone who cannot think outside of their ideological talking points. Lazy is refusing to adapt to a society that no longer shares your views.
Preliator April 10, 2012 at 10:54 AM
You know what is worse than overt bigotry, Mary Beth, excusing and defending overt bigotry.
forward thinking April 10, 2012 at 12:22 PM
it is my experience that repub. deal in facts and dem.'s copious quantities of mindless rhetoric. Enough already of the personal attacks and the race cards … all pol. Are equal in my mind except for what they stand for.
Robert April 23, 2012 at 08:49 PM
I just read a statistic that 400 individuals have more money than the remaining 150 million Americans. Why would anyone vote for a man who exacerbates income inequality by outsourcing American jobs to foreign countries?
Preliator May 01, 2012 at 01:47 AM
It is called the global economy, get use to it. As for income 'inequality'...maybe you should have done better in school, attended a better college, worked harder and come up with a great idea but seeing that you are here complaining about income 'inequality' my guess is no, you would rather have people like Bishop and Obama do it for you and take car of you like a child.
Ralebird May 01, 2012 at 05:41 AM
Yeah, you know the "global economy" that allows Apple to transfer revenues to its operations in places like Ireland to end up with taxes in the low single digits. The same "global economy" that allowed ExxonMobil to pay nothing at all in US taxes in a year of record profits. But it's all legal; it's been made legal by the people we elect. How do the people running for office now feel about these things? Let's find out and decide who to vote for based at least partially on that information.
Rick Hoyt May 01, 2012 at 01:11 PM
We Are Losing Our Sovereignty To To The Agenda 21/UN Technocrats, Bankers-Our Government Goes To Them By-Passing The Congress.CISPA Just Passed From Rep. Controlled Congress, So The Internet May No Longer Be "Public" Domain, Awaiting Senate Vote .So, Not Sure If We'll Be Pull-Up From This.The Middle Class, Are Saps Who have To Pay For Their Globalist Friends, And For Illegals And Endless Social Welfare Programs, Non-Sustainable.
Argile May 01, 2012 at 01:56 PM
"For Illegals And Endless Social Welfare Programs" End this and how would politicians get their votes?
Fred Stewart May 01, 2012 at 04:50 PM
I find it very hard to believe you are a registered democrat...everything you type is the antithesis of the democratic party...
Fred Stewart May 01, 2012 at 04:53 PM
bearded monkey... nice... your boy sean hannity usually discredits ad hominum attack like that... whatever... I expect to congratulate congressman Bishop after the next election!
Fred Stewart May 01, 2012 at 04:58 PM
ps... you can blame the 'dumocrats' but tarp and the bailout happened on Dubya 'nukular' Bush's watch...
Argile May 01, 2012 at 05:35 PM
Your right Fred, the bailouts were started by the Bush administration and continued by the Obama administration. Your point is what? Are you trying to bait me in on something? It wont happen. Didn't vote for Bush, didn't vote for Obama.
Argile May 01, 2012 at 05:40 PM
So because I'm an anti-socialist and and partialy anti-entitlement that means I'm a republican? I got news for you, responsibility and accountability for one's self has no party affiliation.
Argile May 01, 2012 at 05:43 PM
rick, here's a small bit of what America has become. Note: the person is not a democrat or republican, she's just an idiot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1E&feature=related
Drtee-Dancer May 01, 2012 at 08:56 PM
Mr. Bishop really hasn't had an original idea. Unfortunately, the way the system works is that is that Mr. Bishop is Rep. Pelosi's lapdog. He does & vote whatever he's told to do..... he's no Paul Ryan. For those on the East End who thinks he's a savior, please vote for him. For those who don't, vote For Mr. Altschuler. I would also like to add that the Sillerman family that finances many of Mr. Bishop's activites are the greatest. If it wasn't for Mrs. Laura Sillerman, I would not be alive today. In any event, I'll be voting for Mr. Altschuler as I've had enough of this downward spiral.


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