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New Billboards for County Road 39 Pitched

Southampton Town Board considers measures to combat speeding, distracted driving.

A new incarnation of controversial and oft-derided anti-speeding billboards that once stood along County Road 39 in Southampton may be in store as part of an effort to reduce accidents on the highly traveled roadway.

In light of a that closed the highway for nearly six hours, as well as other serious accidents across town this year, the Town Board held a discussion Friday on how to address speeding and other traffic hazards, such as distracted drivers. The prospect of new billboards was raised, as the Town Board, Police Chief William Wilson and Town Director of Transportation and Traffic Safety Tom Neely weighed the best traffic-calming and accident-reducing measures.

The old billboards — which featured a life-size police car and a cop pointing a radar gun — alerted motorists that the speed limit is 35 miles per hour and "strictly enforced."

Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst suggested at Friday's meeting that the installation of new large signs be considered to raise public awareness.

The supervisor said the billboards could go up on a seasonal basis and send the message that using cellphones and texting while driving kills.

The old billboards were erected in May 2008 by Suffolk County after a widening project that added a second eastbound lane to the highway was completed. The signs were vandalized a few times; however, after someone whitewashed the police car on Thanksgiving morning and spraypainted "Please'" and "Thank You" on the billboards instead, many residents saw it as an improvement.

After a number of complaints from constituents and Southampton leaders, Suffolk County removed the signs in February 2009.

Wilson said that though traffic in Southampton has increased by 50 percent in the past 25 years, the roads have only improved 1 percent in that time to accommodate them — namely, the widening of County Road 39.

“Our road systems were never designed to handle the amount of volume we have on the roadways,” he said, noting that more cars means an increased chance of collisions.

Neely told the Town Board that Southampton has about 2,000 motor vehicle accidents annually, with 500 injuries and eight fatalities.

“I think we are generally on the same level," Neely said of 2012 so far. "Of course, July and August are two of the highest accident months”

Neely said that 18 percent of accidents in town are attributed to a driver failing to yield the right of way, 9 percent are due to speeding, and 3.4 percent involve alcohol or drugs.

The Town Board decided to draft a resolution to be voted on at its Tuesday public meeting that directs Neely to ask Suffolk County for an accident analysis of County Road 39.

John C August 13, 2012 at 10:34 am
We need that old sign back dull time
Jaguar-Guy August 13, 2012 at 10:40 am
I love those signs because they work. Summer dinks always speed into town at 60+ and this will slow that traffic down and we will see an impact for the better.
Shinnecock Hills August 13, 2012 at 11:44 am
I agree, except that it's not "strictly enforced". I don't think I've ever seen a police car with a radar gun on County Rd 39. I do occasionally see them on Hill St, although it's usually in the winter.
Tony Ernst August 13, 2012 at 12:02 pm
"Neely said that 18 percent of accidents in town are attributed to a driver failing to yield the right of way, 9 percent are due to speeding, and 3.4 percent involve alcohol or drugs."
This is 30% of the accidents. Did Mr. Neely indicate what the majority of the accidents are attributed to? How many accidents were on Cty Rd 39 and how many fatalities have occurred so far this year?
Jaguar-Guy August 13, 2012 at 12:08 pm
They park in the lot across the street from Mt. Fuji. They could make "bank" if they parked off Shrubland and got all the people making a left turn onto it, leaving the Highway (across from Greek Bites) which is illegal before 10 a.m. They could park there every single day of the week and easily write about 100 tickets per day.
M E S August 13, 2012 at 12:23 pm
The sign would be a lie and I don't think that is a good example for law enforcement officials to send. It is not strictly enforced and everyone knows that its is not strictly enforced. Perhaps if it is actually strictly enforced for real instead of putting a sign with a large cop depicting what an actual cop should be doing we would see a slow down in the traffic. But a sign touting a falsehood about anything on Country Road 39 being strictly enforced will likely have no impact.
Patrice Dalton August 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm
We need real live police officers on duty, billboards should reinforce the fact that we have officers on the road in sufficient numbers. Given all of the issues we have had this summer with traffic and drivers, our elected officials should be finding budget to staff the police department properly.
Alan Rodriguez August 13, 2012 at 01:08 pm
When the sign was up, you could see people braking to slow down. Now, you can see them weaving betweeen lanes to maintain highway speed. It's too bad the town board aceded to the wishes of those who found the sign "offensive" becasue it showed "Apolice officer pointing a gun"
mudfish August 13, 2012 at 01:48 pm
why waste the money, the police do not pull over anybody for anything it seems. no one stops at stop signs, everyone speeds. i see more police on their cell phones driving around than seeing them actually pulling people over.
justbreath August 13, 2012 at 01:56 pm
Remember whey the police would put a real police car out with a dummy in it? Worked till someone stole the dummy, LOL!!!
David D'Agostino August 13, 2012 at 01:57 pm
How about fixing the cause instead of band-aids. Over-development is the issue.
Faustina August 13, 2012 at 02:18 pm
Air-head Anna needs to have her "awareness" raised to the reality of the dangerous,
heavy increased car and truck traffic that will be barreling down The Highway of Death, County Rd 39, compliments of the monstrous King Kullen, Morrow Shopping Center that she is flirting with dumping on tuckahoe. As a cardboard cutout herself, of course, she thinks a carboard cop will solve the problem.
Brendan J. O'Reilly (Editor) August 13, 2012 at 04:12 pm
I have added a poll to this post to quantify how readers feel about the proposal. Please vote.
Diane Sadowski August 13, 2012 at 10:37 pm
We can not afford a fatal or near fatal accident. As we all witnessed what happens when there has to be an thorough investigation and clean-up. ...closure of the only main highway in and out of the Hamptons. It is a fact that every increase in 10 mph of speed multiplies the seriousness of the accident significantly. It is imperative to keep the speed limit down to 35 mph, which increases the safety and flow for everyone; those who live and work here and those who commute or visit. Do whatever it takes to achieve this.
muskrat August 13, 2012 at 11:13 pm
If they actually enforced the speed limit, I would be in favor of putting the billboards back up. I loved the one with the donuts.
Ben Stein August 13, 2012 at 11:52 pm
I am not sure if you are an engineer, but I agree with you on every point you made. Unlike most towns that can because they aren't on an island, Southampton cannot afford a fatal or near fatal accident. Not only that, but I haven't seen the studies to which you refer but I would think that if cars are going faster then the accident will be more serious. Great minds think alike.
Ralebird August 14, 2012 at 05:40 am
Somebody, please photoshop that picture of McKayka Maroney onto the sign in place of the cop.
Ralebird August 14, 2012 at 05:43 am
Tear down your house and move away. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem, right?
Bbambi August 14, 2012 at 11:18 am
Shared turn lanes and no shoulders/ emergency lanes : recipe for death
Penny August 14, 2012 at 01:01 pm
Horrible engineering along 39A is a huge factor. With the shoulder gone, when turning west from St. Andrews you can't see oncoming traffic until its on you, and if you try to pull out of the way, you hit the pole that's were the shoulder should be. Turn lanes are so narrow that most times the back end of vehicles stick out into the travel lanes so you either have to hit the brakes to avoid a rear-ender or swerve around them and chance sideswiping someone.
Jerry Can August 14, 2012 at 02:17 pm
Very good point. Mr. Neely's numbers leave the causes for 70% of accidents unaccounted for. That is a big number for other and miscellaneous.
David D'Agostino August 14, 2012 at 02:22 pm
GJ, I was speaking of commercial development, but thanks for the pointless response.
David D'Agostino August 14, 2012 at 02:23 pm
I agree, bbambi
Jerry Can August 14, 2012 at 02:40 pm
Interesting that based on these limited statistics, that the majority of the accidents are not DWI based. That I believe is due to the fact that most drivers are very aware of the costly consequences of a DWI not just in potential risk for accidents but from law enforcement. From a law enforcement perspective there seems to be a lot of money in DWI's from fines and so forth as well as subsidies from various government sources so there is a greater incentive to pursue them. Can the same be true for other types of infractions? Speeding probably eyes the others probably less so. It would be interesting to get the numbers from the police and the courts for the other types of violations they are issuing tickets to understand better what is going on. Putting up large dumb signs are meaning less. More enforcement is what is needed coupled to less leniency at the courts. A stop sign violation is not a parking ticket. There are serious consequences from failing to stop if that is what the "failing to yield" number means.
LIkewise, a greater police presence is required. People have to see the police out there. Just like on the highways and you slow down and see a cop, likewise in these back roads. Also there are certain times and places where a traffic cop is needed to direct and control traffic and not just to doll out parking violations. This is especially true in the Villages.
Ralebird August 14, 2012 at 07:27 pm
Oh, so it's okay to take away the use of others' properties, but not yours? That's why the word "hypocrite" was coined.
David D'Agostino August 14, 2012 at 07:39 pm
GJ, you are clearly only interested in being a pain in the _____. Where did I mention taking away the use of others' properties? Allow me to be specific so you can rest your weary mind: I am talking about future development - future commercial development e.g. the proposed King Kullen Mega-Mall, which is a change of zone issue - my residential property already exists and was built according to zoning. Spot zoning developments have no "as of right" so there are no property rights to be taken away, instead, the board has the power of discretion which means they can limit development type and size in the interest of the town and in the interest of road safety.
leslie October 5, 2012 at 07:16 pm
SPEED LIMIT CONTROLLED BY SNIPER!!!!!! that would definetly stop some citi idiots
EmJeyZee October 16, 2012 at 02:20 am
I say make the road effectively more narrow by converting one of the lanes to a locals and commercial only lane during peak rush...everyone else..get in line. The Hamptons are a scarce resource and should be treated as such. There is no reason to open the gates to accommodate the consumption of it. People will come to Hamptons (I promise). Traffic congestion is a problem for every major beach destination on the East coast. The problem to solve is to provide traffic relief to the locals and commercial traffic. Building more lanes never solves traffic problems...it just shifts them a few miles down the road...especially on an island!

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